From: Nigel Hay (Nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Fri May 28 2004 - 13:34:41 PDT
Folks, at the risk of being flamed ot a chared remain of my former self,
this topic is way over the top of our heads and try as I might, I cant see
how it involves historic and contempory military vehicles. There are many
here outside North America who really dont give a toss about the right to
bear arms or otherwise or the pros and cons of Fox news,
And having seen "Bowling for Columbine" I made my own mind up about gun
ownership......
We have in just 8 days time the 60th anniversay of the greatest invasion
ever. Over 7,000 historic military vehicles will be turning up in Normandy
from Monday - surely there must be some interesting dialogue about that?
This will be the first time I have attended a D Day anniversay without a
military vehicle. With the inherant security and the omni present Blackhawks
it will probably be an easier experience. As Utah beach is outside the
exclusion zone thats where we will be on the 6th - I suspect there will be a
lot of HMV's there too.
Last week I met a British veteran of a mere 87 years just 50 yards from my
house who had been a tanker and fought for the village down the lane and the
hill I live on. His CO was Peter Carrington who later drove the lead tank
over Njimegen Bridge in Holland - and then became Lord Carrington,
government minster and elder statesman of the upper house. He told me first
hand of what life was like as tank crew in theBocage ( hedgerow) fighting -
rather him than me..... and a better man than me.
I hope that those of you in USA will be able to see good TV coverage of the
events.
NIGE
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Cole" <DavidCole@tk7.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Real News/ Gun Ban
>
> Fox - real effort at the truth? Let's hope they keep trying. IMO - They
> confuse truth with opinion. Can someone get further to the right than
> Shawn Hanady? (sp?) I don't think so.
>
> CNN - I think they are fairly unbiased - however everyone has some bias -
> it's only human. Overall I think they do a fairly good job.
>
> I watch CNN, read the paper ( locally very conservative ), local news
> (totally confused - designed to fill the space between the commercials),
> etc.
>
> NRA, Rush, Drudge, etc and other radio heads - you get what you are
looking
> for - no one should confuse these "sources" with the "news".
>
> Whatever your opinion, you can generally find what you are looking for if
> you look long enough - and that may or may not be the truth.
>
> Dave
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:43:10 -0400, Larry Tighe
> <larryradio@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > The FOX news network seems to be making a real effort at truth. Maybe
> > that's why their US ratings are higher than the other cable newsies
> > combined! They use experienced news people (journalists) as opposed to
> > pretty-boy teleprompter readers (presenters).
> >
> > Most large newspapers are owned by huge media groups (as are broadcast
> > stations these days) and tint the news according to the editorial
> > leanings.
> >
> > Lar
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Royce C Hayes" <rc_hayes1@juno.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Fw: Gun Ban
> >
> >
> >> Best not to watch Clinton New Network, All 'Bout Clinton, Notin But
> >> Clinton, and Clinton Broadcast System, typical liberal, say anything
but
> >> the truth, news networks.
> >>
> >> A lot of the local newspapers are also biased to the left. No truth
> >> there either.
> >>
> >> When it comes to gun issues, it is best to get the news direct from the
> >> NRA, a state affiliate, or a 2nd amendment list.
> >>
> >> I believe very little of what I hear through the liberal news media.
> >>
> >> Royce
> >> ======================================
> >> On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:33:55 -0400 "Steve Grammont"
> >> <islander@midmaine.com> writes:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >There is some confusion here......
> >> >
> >> > yup, and sorry for being part of the reason for it.
> >> >
> >> .
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the refresher. OK, so what is the connection to Bush
> >> > Sr.? I
> >> > could have sworn he had something to do with this law remaining in
> >> > force.
> >> > Same too for Bush Jr., who recently renewed SOME sort of ban within
> >> > the
> >> > last couple of weeks. Or at least he said he would (that was the
> >> > report
> >> > at the time I heard it). I heard that on CNN and at the time
> >> > thought it
> >> > was the '86 ban because it mentioned the legislation dated back to
> >> > his
> >> > father's time in office. Am I confusing this with something else?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >>
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> Dave
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