From: Lee Franklin (lee@wellnesshealth.com)
Date: Sun May 30 2004 - 21:25:34 PDT
That makes absolute sense to me, Dick.
-Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: rertman@ix.netcom.com [mailto:rertman@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:03 PM
To: Lee Franklin; MIL-VEHICLES
Subject: Re: [MV] Super Singles?
True, Lee, for MV's.
On civvy commercial trucks, the super singles are popular because they'll
carry
the same load as a pair of duals, but cost a lot less than the equivalent
set
of standard tires. They're popular around here on cement mixers, dirt
haulers
and equipment carriers. To the best of my limited knowledge, they're not
off-road
tires...strictly road tires. This info from a neighbor who owns a fleet of
cement mixers.
BTW, I sure would like to find a set of super singles to fit the 16" wheels
on
my 2001 Dodge/Cummins 4X4 dually pickup.
Dick
Lee Franklin wrote:
>
> The reason deuces have the duals is for extra traction off road, and to
help
> support weight. Remember that it is definately made with going 'off road'
> in mind. Even my old 109 shop van (horribly overloaded with a #1 common
> tool set and Artillery maint tool set and more..) was quite good off road.
> One time I took a turn too fast on a tank trail (hard packed mud
> essentially) just after some rain had made a nice slick surface and found
> myself fully sideways in a ditch, staring at dirt out the drivers window.
I
> just popped her in low, engaged 6x and drove it right out... you should
have
> seen what a mess the load was in after though...
>
> For those who have been, it was out in the area near the old church in
> Graffenwohr. Artillery firing positions, I think Area November. Damn
Graf
> mud.
>
> -Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of David Cole
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 2:29 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Super Singles?
>
> I saw a price on some of those commerical super single tires once and they
> are really expensive - like $800 per tire.
>
> When I went to Italy a few years back I notices that most of the semi's
use
> Super Singles instead of duals. Apparently good super singles have a lot
> less rolling resistance - hence greater MPG.
>
> Dave
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> On Fri, 28 May 2004 07:58:46 -0700, <rertman@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, guys:
> >
> > The Super singles I see on cement mixers and dirt haulers in my area
> > don't have the
> > diameter problem. They're just about the same outside diameter as the
> > standard tires used on dual wheel setups. So, no tire rubbing for the
> > rear tandem axles. These
> > Class 8 rigs also use Super Singles on the steer axles so all 6 tires
are
> > the same
> > and the load carrying capacity is maximized.
> >
> > As for me, I'm trying to find Super Singles to fit my 2001 Dodge/Cummins
> > QuadCab 1-ton
> > 4X4 with dual rear wheels. I want to reduce the tire count while
> > retaining the load
> > capacity. Yup, I know I'll have to buy 7 new wheels if I find the
tires,
> > but I'm
> > willing to do that. My OEM tires are 235/85R16.
> >
> > Dick
> >
> > Steve Randall wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Dick,
> >> I've been looking at some 14:00 X 20:00 which are 49" tall
> >> and 15" wide and I'm thinking of putting them on my M135 and replacing
> >> the
> >> 11:00 X 20:00. There used military tires with about 90% tread and I
> >> think
> >> they would look great on the duece. Anybody have any suggestions on why
> >> "Not" to put these on a duece..(yea, I know, I opened myself up for
this
> >> one)..lol
> >> Thanks,
> >> Steve Randall
> >> 1953 GMC M135
> >>
> >> >From: rertman@ix.netcom.com
> >> >To: Steve Randall <srandall64@hotmail.com>
> >> >Subject: Re: [MV] Super Singles?
> >> >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:08:55 -0700
> >> >
> >> >Steve, the only ones I've seen are on Class 8 big rigs like cement
> >> mixers
> >> >and dirt haulers
> >> >around here (southern CA). They look to be about 14" or so wide and
> >> come
> >> >in the diameters
> >> >generally used on the big trucks. I'm wondering if there are any
> >> >equivalent tires in 16"
> >> >diameter. If they exist, I'd put a set of 4 on my 2001 3500 4X4
dually
> >> >Dodge/Cummins
> >> >QuadCab.
> >> >
> >> >Dick
> >> >
> >> >Steve Randall wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > What size are super singles? Are they 14:00 X 20:00's?
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: uniquemachine@cybcon.com
> >> > > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >> > > >Subject: [MV] 5 ton wheels and tires.
> >> > > >Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:01:38 -0700
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I have a complete set (11) of 11:00-20 tires already mounted on
> >> > > >wheels for a 5 ton truck located in So. Cal. Tires are like new,
> >> and
> >> > > >the spare is brand new. If anyone is interested, contact me.
> >> Also,
> >> > > >what is the prefered wheel for the super single 5 ton? There is
> >> > > >supposed to be one version with about 10 bolts around the edge,
> >> > > >and another with about 20 bolts around the edge. Which is the
> >> > > >better wheel?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Jon
> >> > > >
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> >> > > Steve Randall
> >> > >
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