From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Tue Oct 05 2004 - 20:22:51 PDT
Wayne,
Are you saying that less sulfur in diesel fuel is better for an engine?
I've heard just the opposite.
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Harris <papercu@hotmail.com>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: [MV] Fuel Question Not the same anymore
> From the net. http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/FAQ/diesel_fuel.htm
>
> Off road diesel and the diesel for the newer trucks and cars are not the
> same. The fuel at the pump maked "Highway Diesel #2" means that the
sulfur
> level is approved for highway use and catalytic converters. Diesel #2 is
> heavier than #1. It also (usually) has lower Cetane and more heat energy
per
> gallon than #1. #2 will tend to form wax crystals and gel at temperatures
> below 10 degrees F. Most winter fuels are a blend of #1 and #2, but when
it
> gets really cold add fuel conditioner to avoid clogging the fuel filter
with
> wax crystals
>
>
>
> Off road fuel still has the sulfur which affects wear, deposits, and
> particulate emissions. Diesel fuels contain varying amounts of various
> sulfur compounds which increase oil acidity. Legislation has reduced the
> sulfur content of highway fuel to 0.05% by weight. Off road fuel has an
> average of 0.29% sulfur by weight.
>
> fuels, DOT inspectors, and the perils of having dyed fuel in a tank. Here
> are the high points:
>
> Off road Diesel #2 and fuel oil # 2 differ only in the tax applied at the
> time of sale. Both are dyed red.
>
> Kerosene #1 and #2 are lighter than #1 and #2 diesel fuel. Most kerosene
is
> dyed red.
>
> The old method of winter treatment using 1 gal of kerosene to 10 gal of
> diesel can get a driver into trouble unless it is dispensed as clear
> kerosene from a pump which charges road tax.
>
> Any red dye in a tank of fuel is detectable by the sampler the DOT uses,
> even when diluted by a large quantity of undyed fuel. As little as 1/2 qt
of
> ATF in a tank of fuel will be detected as untaxed fuel and can cause a
major
> headache for the driver.
>
> In VA, fines for using dyed fuel (untaxed) begin at $1000and go up rapidly
> from there. Road checks for untaxed fuel began in northern VA, and have
now
> spread throughout the state.
>
> Q: What is the difference between #1 Diesel and K1 Kerosene?
> K1 kerosene is a low-sulfur kerosene that is made for use in space
heaters,
> lamps, etc. - and not for use in vehicles or generators. It is also not
> taxed so would be illegal to use in "on-road" vehicles.
>
> Lower lubricity is likely as the viscosity decreases. While this may not
> cause catastrophic instant damage, it could cause long-term wear of pumps,
> etc. Four semi-annual surveys for years 1990-1992 showed national averages
> as such for viscosity (represented in milliPascal-seconds (mPa .
> s)(=centipoise) cSt)
>
> Diesel # 1 1.33
> Diesel # 2 3.20
> Kerosene 1.63
> Both Kerosene and Diesel # 1 are less dense than Diesel # 2 and will thus
> have a slight reduction (~3%) in BTU per gallon. This would likely be
> reflected in lower fuel economy.
>
> >From: grntrks@juno.com
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] Fuel Question
> >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:05:18 -0500
> >
> >Hi Ed,
> >The red dye in the fuel only does 2 things--- identifies untaxed fuel (
> >road use taxes ) and leaves a detectable marker in the exhaust residue in
> >the exhaust pipes. This dye, when found in a " highway " vehicle is
> >considered tangible evidence that the vehicle owner has attempted to
> >avoid paying the " highway tax " by consuming untaxed fuel illegally. I
> >don't remember how high the fine is, but it's high enough that I figured
> >it wasn't worth getting caught. (something on the order of $2,000.00 -
> >first offense. - might be higher, just don't remember. ) In Texas during
> >the annual vehicle inspection, while checking exhaust emissions the
> >vehicle is also checked for dye traces. If found, you are guilty PERIOD.
> >
> >
> >Frank Cox ' Nam 1966
> >MVPA 14530
> >'45 GMC 353 DUKW
> >'66 M35A2 w/w
> >"On-A-Mission" hot shot trucking
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:42:11 -0400 "Ed Kirkley" <mojoedd@bellsouth.net>
> >writes:
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > A friend has a supply of "off road use only" fuel for his farm
> > > tractors and
> > > such. It is dyed red in color but seems to be standard diesel. Can
> > > this be
> > > used in M-1009s, Humvees, Duce and half's, etc.? Can using this
> > > fuel in any
> > > way harm your vehicles???? With the cost of fuel being what it is
> > > this
> > > seems like a valid question and I told him that I had just the place
> > > to find
> > > out.........What say you esteemed listers????
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
>
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