Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up

From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Sat May 07 2005 - 19:35:33 PDT


I decided to stay around and aggravate you Arthur. Been riding Harley's
since the last wobble.

Sonny

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From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>; "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
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Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up

> Not enough tonic in your gin & tonic?
>
> apb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up
>
>
>> I have an old motorcycle that has went in to a wobble on me twice. I
> parked
>> it about twenty years ago and haven't started it since.
>>
>> Anyone care to guess what the problem may have been? Its a 1973
>> Motoguzzi
>> Eldarado 850.
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <santoken@bright.net>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked up
>>
>>
>> > Yeah, I'd have to agree with Bobby Joe on this one. I'm pretty sure
> what
>> > you are describing is a 'speed wobble.'
>> >
>> > Typically, a steering stabilizer will only reduce 'road wandering' not
> so
>> > much as speed wobble. In fact, a speed wobble will destroy a steering
>> > stabilizer in no time flat.
>> >
>> > I'm thinking you've got a bad tie rod, ball joint, etc.
>> >
>> > Kent
>> >
>> >>
>> >> From: "Bobby Joe Pendleton" <bjpendleton@charter.net>
>> >> Date: Sat May 7, 8:32 PM
>> >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked
> up
>> >>
>> >> a steering stabilizer may help, but it also may be just hiding a real
>> >> problem. The first thing I would do is check all movable joints in the
>> >> front
>> >> suspension and steering.
>> >>
>> >> BjP
>> >> Southern by the grace of God
>> >> "I...Shall Remain Confederate"
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Chris Brunner" <cjbrunner@optonline.net>
>> >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, 07 May, 2005 20:22
>> >> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV swollen glow plug removal - rear brakes locked
> up
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > In the Jeep world I used to belong to before I got into military
>> >> > surplus
>> >> > we experienced that same Phenomenon and called it Death Wobble. In
>> >> > a
>> >> > Jeep it was caused by looseness in the front end, the axle would
>> >> > move
> a
>> >> > little bit left to right and the steering would stay static causing
> the
>> >> > wheels to turn a little left to right. This natural motion would
> build
>> >> > up a harmonic and set the whole thing off into a giant wiggle that
> had
>> >> > a
>> >> > really high pucker factor in the front seat. Although I know our
>> >> > trucks
>> >> > are a lot different, I would check out all the hardware around the
>> >> > front
>> >> > end to see if the diff is moving at all side to side that would
>> >> > contribute to this problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >> >
>> >> > Jeff Gatton wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >As for my shaking....I went for a test drive this
>> >> > >morning and paid a little closer attention to the
>> >> > >symptoms. The front end actually started shaking. I
>> >> > >was able to hit the brakes and stop it before it got
>> >> > >too bad. I came home and inspected and realized that
>> >> > >my front steering stabilizer was completely missing.
>> >> > >I bet adding one of them will stop the front end from
>> >> > >shaking uncontrollably.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jeff
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >--- Jeff Gatton <jdgatton@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>I finally got all the swollen glow plugs out. I
>> >> > >>only
>> >> > >>had to pull 3 of them out of the injector holes.
>> >> > >>The
>> >> > >>pulling tool and air ratchet only worked on 1. Good
>> >> > >>ol' vise grips and some wiggling/pulling/cussing
>> >> > >>worked on the rest.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I bought the "super-duper" glow plugs from Kennedy
>> >> > >>Diesel. They are actually Wellman 6A843G050. The
>> >> > >>tab
>> >> > >>broke off one of them (cheap-ass spot weld) when I
>> >> > >>was
>> >> > >>grinding it down to fit my connector.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>The swollen ones I removed were Wellman 6A843G070.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>After new glow plugs and a new glow plug relay, I'm
>> >> > >>back on the road.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Another funny thing happened....I was doing about
>> >> > >>35mph and hit a dip in the road, all of the sudden,
>> >> > >>the whole truck was shaking and jumping. I think
>> >> > >>the
>> >> > >>rear brakes/axle locked up on me. I stopped and got
>> >> > >>out to see if my axle had fallen off or something,
>> >> > >>and
>> >> > >>everything looked good....it drove fine after that.
>> >> > >>I
>> >> > >>did smell some hot brakes/tires. I didn't try
>> >> > >>hitting
>> >> > >>any dips in the road at that speed yet though. Has
>> >> > >>anyone had a similar experience? I was thinking
>> >> > >>that
>> >> > >>the rear proportion valve might have kicked in when
>> >> > >>I
>> >> > >>hit that dip and locked up the breaks...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I just started driving this truck, so I'm still
>> >> > >>learning his quirks.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Jeff Gatton
>> >> > >>Saucier, MS
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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