From: Rick v100 (rickv100@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Jun 06 2005 - 11:08:20 PDT
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Rick
--- JEFF HAIN-MATSON <flmv@flmv.net> wrote:
> try this link:
>
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47803
>
> It may be that you have to log on the G site to see
> the message forums, I don't
> know.
>
>
> If all else fails, got to:
>
> www.g503.com
> on the left side click "message boards"
> scroll down to "scuttlebutt" and click on
> "Announcements, News, Humor, etc, NO
> Politics"
> and the top item "Sticky: MVPA Discussion" is the
> one in question.
>
> Hope this gets you all there to see what is going
> on!!
>
>
> chance wolf wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <flyn3nvt@adelphia.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA - interesting reading on
> the G503 list
> >
> > > Can you post this on the MV list.
> >
> > Yes please from here too. You just wind up at the
> login screen with that
> > URL previously posted.
> >
> > > Though I believe in groups like AOPA and EAA for
> helping the aviation
> > community
> > > for a positive (will be needed for AT-6 owners).
> I let go my membership
> > to the MVPA
> > > yrs ago because I was tired of the "if its not
> WW2, then its not a
> > Military Vehicle"
> > > additude the group showed me.
> >
> > "The Group" isn't comprised of the MVPA brass
> alone, though, or even what
> > you perceive as being the bulk of the membership.
> Thousands of people carry
> > MVPA cards who own everything from Mules to M113s,
> and at each of the three
> > MVPA conventions I've managed to attend, a range
> of vehicles from WWI
> > Liberty B types through HUMV prototypes was
> displayed and enjoyed by fellow
> > collectors and public alike. The "World War II
> Club" is not a sense that I
> > get at all.
> >
> > That all said, my own MVPA membership has lapsed
> as of a couple of years
> > back now. There are several reasons for that.
> I'd say "Supply Line" used
> > to be *the* resource for parts and vehicles in the
> hobby for a decade or
> > better until they started restricting this, that
> and the other thing in
> > terms of listings and drove people away into the
> waiting arms of the
> > competing/complementary "Military Vehicles
> Magazine". If I'm subscribing
> > to something for...40 bucks a year...I don't want
> one and a half pages of
> > classifieds out of a magazine that runs 20 pages
> or better. Secondly - I'm
> > busy, and truth be told - somewhat disorganized.
> I'll renew my bloody
> > subscriptions when I get around to it. When I do,
> I want a year's worth of
> > publications from the date I renew, and not, like
> last time, exactly three
> > publications for my $37 and change before getting
> my renewal notice for the
> > next year on their fixed "renew when we tell you
> or too bad" timetable. No.
> > I'm a customer, and the tail is not going to wag
> the dog.
> >
> > The MVPA is a good umbrella organization and does
> lobby on behalf of the
> > collectors in terms of those dreaded Bills which
> seem to want to restrict
> > ownership of the private Green Fleet, and had I
> remembered back in the dying
> > seconds of 2004, I would've renewed for this year
> despite my "Supply Line"
> > misgivings. But I didn't. When I thought about
> it, it was May, and I knew
> > I'd be back to three magazines for $37, so I said
> "sod it". Out loud as I
> > recall. I'm sure there are those of us who are
> sitting back thinking that
> > despite all, $37 seems a paltry amount in order to
> support the Hobby - but I
> > do that in spades by showing up to as many events
> as I can; staying up all
> > night to do Club website revisions, and burning
> off two nice, expensive
> > colour cartridges making up handouts at 2 am for
> events taking place at 0800
> > the following day.
> >
> > If the MVPA wants to boost flagging membership, I
> suggest:
> >
> > a) Actually responding to people who want to have
> their major events listed
> > in "Supply Line" (especially since the 'every
> other month' schedule doesn't
> > permit too many "oh, I didn't see that..."
> mistakes before the event's
> > already been and gone.)
> >
> > b) Scrapping the fixed renewal/pro-rated policy
> for membership/ magazines
> >
> > c) Revisiting the "Supply Line" issue and
> retooling whatever's necessary to
> > stay competitive with "Military Vehicles
> Magazine."
> >
> > d) Encouraging more Post-WWII content in "Army
> Motors".
> >
> > e) Doing a no-frills mailout to all lapsed members
> 2001-2004 letting them
> > know all the above has come to pass, along with a
> "what the MVPA does for
> > the hobby..." precis.
> >
> > I would suggest that a lot of us support the MVPA
> even if we aren't current
> > members. Address some of those issues above, and
> I'd further suggest we
> > will gladly become members once again.
> >
> > <flameproof suit zipped up appropriately>
> >
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> --
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