From: Darrell Ramsell (daram@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Jul 28 2005 - 00:45:52 PDT
I was originally planning to get a M-105 for my HMMWV but after looking at
how big one is, the break system not being compatible and the amount of
conversion to get it level, I decided to pass. After reading Ron's story,
I'm glad I did. Got myself a M-101A2 and tows like a dream.
In one incident traveling at 55 with a 3,000lb load in the trailer. Someone
cut in front of me and I had no choice but to hit the breaks hard.
Fortunately I had surge brakes on the trailer and I could feel them kick in
(nice feeling). The quick slow down was smooth and straight. I forgot to
mention that I had 2,000lb in the HMMWV too.
Darrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <rojoha@adelphia.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV M105A1 trailer wiring M1009
> Hi Todd....
>
> Ya just might want to think that over a bit. The manufacturer rates a
> vehicles towing ability using engineers and computers to figure a stock
> vehicles ability.
> While 'they match up perfect in height' sitting still, dynamically,
> you're cruising for a bruising.
> Yours is no longer stock, has a lift kit and possibly (probably) larger
> rubber (you didn't say). If your towing with a loaded stock truck you
> might get away with it, but a lifted , wide tires (with high sidewall) rig
> all bids are off.
> Putting my M105 trailer on and off the deuce (non crank landing leg)
> requires 3 people (2 lifting and the driver in the cab). However, I have
> jammed an 8 foot long 2x2 square tube up under the back of the trailer and
> lifted the tongue and shifted it easily using a 100 lb daughter as the
> motive force. Leverage.....
> The 9.00x20s on the M105 allow for easy off road rolling, but punch
> your load right up there vertically, CG wise.
> What's gonna bite you in the ass is that little lane change at highway
> speeds when 'Josephine' (a MA driver) suddenly pulls into the inside lane
> from the breakdown lane without matching speeds and you (rapidly) swerve
> from the inside lane to the middle lane and tap your brakes to avoid 'Sid'
> (a former MA resident who has moved to NH), and that unbraked trailer
> attached to your pintle at a 45 degree angle off your centerline/direction
> of travel, shoves the ass of your truck into the passing lane and beyond.
> Probably shove your rig over on it's side at the same time due to the
> tires dragging and the lift kit helping the roll.
>
> Been there, done that, and got the soiled shorts! Also I have towed the
> remains of several folks consists who have moved small cars and tractors
> on trailers without functioning brakes off the highway to the impound
> yard. Had a 3000+lb Ford 8N (no, you didn't mention the tires were full of
> calcium) drag my 3/4 ton Suburban all over Interstate 93 when 'Josephine'
> pulled this stunt on me and the wiring harness got involved with the
> chains and ripped the plug out of the socket. Why aren't the trailer
> brakes working? Luckily traffic was light and I was able to accelerate (up
> to 75 from 40!!) over the next mile while the trailer took me from passing
> lane to break down lane and back 3 times before the trailer stopped
> snapping me around like a terrier with a rat.
> Do yourself a favor and before you hit the road for real, hook up you
> rig and trailer and find a big empty parking lot on a Sunday morning and
> try some combination 30 mph swerves with various levels of braking
> applications once the trailer is off the center line of your truck. (I
> suggest you empty your bowels before you try this.)
> Also, do not forget that a pintle/lunette combo is a very "LOOSE"
> connection designed as a compromise for maximum off road
> maneuverability(read slop) at low speeds and the lunette on the trailer
> has the ability to rotate through 270 degrees (or more). Using civilian
> combination ball/pintle hitches usually magnifies the 'looseness'. With
> out trailer brakes, your trailer will 'smack' the ball with quite a bit of
> force when you really don't want it (or expect it). Your reaction in a
> swerve/slide situation to a sudden further shove in the ass will be to
> instinctively shove the brake pedal further through the firewall. Truck
> starts a side slide while Mr. M105 Inertia continues to happily motor down
> the highway, taking you along as an unwilling participant, until Mr.
> Friction brings the party to a stop, hopefully still upright, though
> crosswise to traffic. Oppps, we forgot about Mr. Freightliner tooling down
> the lane(s) you now occupy. Damn, I bet you almost could hear the screams
> over the tire and metal rending noises.......
> Do your self a favor and get a nice M101A2. Then you can come to the MV
> rallies and meet us crazies in person while we convert you to the dark
> side of OD collecting and the benefits of 45 MPH travel with the
> windshield down.
>
> Regards, Ronzo
> Who just happens to be selling an M105 and a used M105 vinyl cover,
> along with an M101CDN with racks, gates and cover at the Weare Rally this
> weekend.....
>
> BTW Todd (and others) WEARE, NH RALLY STARTS IN 24 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!
> http://www.mvmvc.org/ for info.
> Come on up and meet a bunch of us and OD on OD!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Goranson" <todd.goranson@netcracker.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 26 July, 2005 21:04
> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV M105A1 trailer wiring M1009
>
>
>> Thanks for all the input and the trans-12 to 24 issues. I plan to tow
>> the m105 behind my 2005 dodge 2500 4x4 which already has a 5 inch lift,
>> they match up perfect in height, I was advises by a friend they make an
>> adapter and I may be able to get one at this weekends show so I'll let
>> you know how o make out. Thx's todd
>
>
>
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