From: santoken@bright.net
Date: Tue Aug 02 2005 - 19:23:55 PDT
Arthur,
I'm surprised at your lack of marketing skill...you should have replied to Bjorn with a request for his mailing address and just send him the brake assy. The way I see it, you could either be out a set of brakes, or you could get an article in MV mag talking your brake system up.
If your brake system is everything you say it is (I have no reason to doubt that it is) you have nothing to fear and everything to gain...right?
Kent
>
> From: m35products <m35prod@optonline.net>
> Date: Tue Aug 2, 5:55 PM
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>
> I didn't bring it up, someone else did.
>
> I make very little, from a commercial standpoint.
>
> Don't offer opinions or advice. Try ("BUY") the product, and then critique
> it.
>
> Thanks for the continued advertising.
>
> apb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>
>
> >
> > I believe in an educated customer.
> > I will continue to provide information that is as accurate as possible
> based
> > on my own experiences and research.
> >
> > Check ALL my posts and articles in the MVM, be it about biodiesel, coolant
> > filters, crankcase breather filter, turn signal buzzer, headlight switch
> > bypass/override circuits, vertical engine air intake, exhaust brake, NDCC
> > tire wet pavement traction, accurate mpg measurements, engine cooling
> > problems (radiator cover), bikini top advantages, flame heater monitor,
> > pyro/ boost gauges, off-road driving with and without chains, tire
> > temperatures and pressure changes due to loading and speed..etc. The list
> > goes on.
> >
> > Sorry Arthur if it hurts your sales, it's not my intention. When you bring
> > up a subject on this list for discussion (or is it just for selling one of
> > your products) expect responses both pros and cons.
> >
> > I would think that my info could help you make a better product.
> >
> > Like Thomas A. Edison said "There is always a way to do it better...find
> > it".
> > A good way to find it, is by looking at exactly the kind of info that
> others
> > and I present to this list free of charge, no less.
> >
> > Disc brakes and drum brakes have different braking characterics, how will
> > you match them?
> >
> > I learned about drive line braking when I installed the exhaust brake on
> my
> > deuce.
> > Read about it, they can be dangerous if not used correctly.
> >
> > About my 24 to 12 volt converter, you will soon see a "Point of Load"
> power
> > supply that is rugged and waterproof that can be used for individual
> > components, from light to cb radios.
> >
> > Have a great day!
> >
> > Bjorn
> > MVPA19212
> > The Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: m35products <m35prod@optonline.net>
> > >To: Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com>, Military Vehicles Mailing
> > >List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> > >Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:03:19 -0400
> > >
> > >Once again, a reader just doesn't seem to understand the concept of "if
> you
> > >can't something nice, don't say anything."
> > >
> > >Immediately upon my mentioning our new product, Bjorn feels the need to
> > >jump
> > >right in and start the dis-information program. Bjorn, have you driven an
> > >M35 with a pinion brake? Would you like one, on approval, to evaluate?
> Just
> > >ask. My policy has always been "send it back if you don't like it."
> > >
> > >I am in business (hobby, actually, according to my wife and the
> accountant)
> > >to help owners of M35 trucks enjoy their vehicles, and to enjoy them
> > >safely.
> > >The pinion brake concept (not mine... I must credit John Tennis, in fact,
> > >for the M35 application) is an accessory brake, not designed to replace
> > >service or parking brakes. It does, however, add considerable braking
> > >ability to the service brake system, with no fancy extra equipment. It
> > >simply TEE's into the service line at the rear axle, and bolts to the the
> > >rear output flange thingie. The trucks will stop, and decisively. In
> > >response to your assertion that driveline braking is inferior to wheel
> > >braking - it's not a contest, it's an improvement. Let's allow my
> > >customers to see for themselves, shall we?
> > >
> > >My policy is simple. The customer drives the business. Naysayers do not.
> > >There is always the manly-man who says that only a girly-man would need
> > >power steering. I see by my saved messages that you, Bjorn, have made
> that
> > >public assertion several times over the years. TACOM disagrees. There is
> > >always the shade tree mechanic who would take $100 worth of drive
> flanges,
> > >and spend 4 hours of his valuable time, making fake lockout hubs, (with
> > >superfluous bearings, in fact) rather than cough up the $ for a real
> set.
> > >There is a whole public thread about that concept, too, and it all seems
> to
> > >be in your handwriting.
> > >
> > >Now, we hear all the reasons why NOT to buy a pinion brake. Bjorn,
> please,
> > >just let me try to make a few bucks here, OK? (the margin is around $20
> for
> > >each one.)
> > >
> > >Did I badmouth your 12-volt to 24-volt taillight blackbox project? No.
> Even
> > >though I could think of lots of reasons not to go that route, I even
> > >offered
> > >to help you market them.
> > >
> > >Thank you, Bjorn, for once again giving me the opportunity to get some
> free
> > >publicity, by perpetuating your constant program of knocking down every
> > >product that I have introduced. Go find something useful to do with your
> > >spare time, rather than criticizing me. I hear there's a war on. Maybe
> you
> > >could knit some bandages with the rest of the girls.
> > >
> > >APB
> > >www.M35products.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
> > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:03 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> > >
> > >
> > > > Be careful with pinion, hand and engine brakes they are "driveline"
> > >brakes
> > > > and work via the differential.
> > > >
> > > > If the traction is questionable then you may lose control of the
> > >vehicle.
> > > > Think about it. On a side slope the upper wheels will brake and it
> would
> > >not
> > > > slow the vehicle unless you have locking diffs.
> > > >
> > > > That's why the driveline brake is not well suited as a parking brake
> > >either.
> > > >
> > > > I have driven my deuce for thousands of miles on the highway and found
> > > > acceleration, speed and braking satisfactory with gross vehicle
> weights
> > > > close to 26,000 lb.
> > > > My biggest concern has been the wet pavement traction of the NDCC's
> and
> > >I'll
> > > > be checking out some Goodyear Unisteels soon, I hope.
> > > > I did get a siping/grooving tool, but haven't had the nerve to cut my
> > >NDCC's
> > > > yet.
> > > >
> > > > Have a great day!
> > > >
> > > > Bjorn
> > > > MVPA19212
> > > > Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Marc Strangfeld <mjstrangfeld@yahoo.com>
> > > > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> > > > >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 02:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >This is the first time I've heard of the pinion brake
> > > > >setup. It's genius! I'll have to put one after I
> > > > >finish my other projects.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Marc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- m35products <m35prod@optonline.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Many enthusiasts of the M35 find that the initial
> > > > > > joyful ownership reaction
> > > > > > eventually fades into a more sober realization of
> > > > > > the truck's true
> > > > > > personality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The M35 class (actually, the M44 class) has lots to
> > > > > > be desired. It steers
> > > > > > like a brick, and accelerates like one, too. Once it
> > > > > > gets up to speed, which
> > > > > > is a velocity not too impressive, it takes quite a
> > > > > > bit of stomping and
> > > > > > cursing to stop it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At my little company, we sell after-market widgets
> > > > > > to make ownership a bit
> > > > > > easier to rationalize.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We sell power steering to make it turn, and lockout
> > > > > > hubs to make it go
> > > > > > faster. Now we sell a pretty nifty disc-brake
> > > > > > accessory to make it stop
> > > > > > better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The pinion brake can be added to any or all of the
> > > > > > three axles, depending
> > > > > > upon how quickly the driver needs to stop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We recommend that at least one be added to the
> > > > > > rear-rear axle. The cost is
> > > > > > around $400, and installation takes under an hour.
> > > > > > It will make the truck
> > > > > > stop, period.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See www.imageevent.com/moosecreekmaple/m35a4 and
> > > > > > click around until you see
> > > > > > the rear pinion brake picture.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A P Bloom
> > > > > > www.M35products.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jim Zehr" <jimm1009@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> > > > > > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:25 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [MV] M35 series brakes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This weekend there was a show on that showed Disc
> > > > > > > Brake kits for the Rockwell axles used under the
> > > > > > M35
> > > > > > > series trucks. The brake kit manufacturer is
> > > > > > > Differential Engineering.
> > > > > > > The axles being modified were not use on a Deuce
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > never the less it seems like a good thing if the
> > > > > > rest
> > > > > > > of the sstem could be worked out.
> > > > > > > How do stock M35 "true-military" brakes work when
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > components are in optimum condition?
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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