From: Bruce Kalin (convoy@mtaofnj.us)
Date: Sat Aug 06 2005 - 20:57:06 PDT
Some sanity seeking in through the muck? Well put, Dan.
Every organization that I belong to offers some type of benefits to the
membership and, as you pointed out, the MVPA has many opportunities to
expand in various directions. Of course, they support the hobby in the
always important political arena, which is very expensive. But, as a
means of enticing new members into the organization, the political
support often ignored. On the other hand, the tangible benefits of
discounts is paramount in the recruitment campaign.
Bruce Kalin
Dan Maguire wrote:
> I disagree.
>
> I think it is important for an organization to know the reasons why
> some people involved in the hobby aren't joining. And it is not the
> same as voting. The MVPA is a business. If I don't like Walmart, I
> don't have to buy from them to earn the right to complain. Not buying
> from a business *is* the most effective way to force them to change.
> Complaining in a public forum is a close second. Kent is following
> the capitalism playbook step-by-step. So is Bjorn, for that matter.
>
> Member discounts on tools, tires, or paint; member rate insurance; a
> nationwide help list as a part of the upcoming membership directory; a
> deal with AAA; negotiating reduced rates on tire shipping through
> motor freight carriers - those are good things that the MVPA could be
> doing but isn't. Doesn't matter if the person who says it is a member
> or not. I'm a member, so the fact that they *aren't* doing those
> things isn't enough to keep me away. They are still decent ideas,
> though.
>
> I guess what I am really trying to say is that an AARP member can get
> a 1/2 price donut 24/7 because the AARP cracked the skulls of donut
> CEOs worldwide. I don't see the MVPA cracking skulls! Where are
> *our* 1/2 price donuts, people?!?!?
>
> Relax - I'm kidding about the donut thing.
>
> Better topic:
> Took a 5-year old neighbor and his father for a ride in my M62 this
> evening. You could barely hear the Continental 602 over the seemingly
> endless squeals of delight. The 5-year old liked it too.
>
> Also learned a simple but important lesson -
> We stopped for gas. While I was pumping, I didn't notice the tiny car
> that pulled up on the other side of the wrecker. They had their
> window down. When I fired up to leave, they got a blast of exhaust
> that would have killed an acre of prairie dogs. I was very embarassed
> and have vowed to, in the future, check for unseen cars in the exhaust
> trajectory and to wait or warn.
>
> I hope that you are all having a good evening.
>
> Dan
> Auburn, IN
>
>
>
> Stu wrote:
>
>> If you are not part of it, you don't have the right to complain about
>> it.
>> Put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, who cares about your
>> opinion. Kind of like not voting. Why should MVPA members care what
>> you
>> think??
>>
>> "Stu" Southern NH, USA
>> "Live Free Or Die"
>>
>> MVPA #14790
>>
>> 1967 M151A1 Jeep 1964 M416 Trailer 1985 M1008 CUCV
>> Pickup
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of santoken@bright.net
>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 7:26 PM
>> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [MV] ASSISTANCE REQUESTED & The MVPA
>>
>> List,
>>
>> See, this is what pisses me about the MVPA. THEY should be the ones
>> that
>> are working to make this 'network' happen, among other things.
>>
>> A buddy and I was talking about that just today. He and I need tires, I
>> need 900r20's and he needs 1100r20's. I made the comment that that
>> wou8ld
>> sure be nice if the MVPA would secure a deal with a tire dealer and
>> get us
>> all a discount for tires.
>>
>> Granted, I'm NOT an MVPA member...because I can't see any value it
>> it...just
>> like now.
>>
>> Look, I know that we are all busy, but what is the point in being in an
>> organization that does nothing beyond magazine subscriptions? It is
>> time
>> that you (MVPA members) start expecting more. If the MVPA was worth
>> a snot,
>> this fella that's stuck wouldn't have a problem...correct me if I'm
>> wrong!
>>
>> Kent
>>
>> Bring the flames on, I'm ready!
>>
>>
>>> From: "Jonathan Boos" <acfarer@cox.net>
>>> Date: Sat Aug 6, 1:10 PM
>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] ASSISTANCE REQUESTED
>>>
>>> Thanks Bruce!
>>> Dang!!!! There is nobody in Nebraska OR Iowa on that list. we need
>>> to beat
>>
>>
>>
>>> the bushes and get more folks to sign up.
>>> JB
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce C. Beattie"
>>> <bruce@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
>>> To: "Jonathan Boos" <acfarer@cox.net>
>>> Cc: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] ASSISTANCE REQUESTED
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here is the link,
>>>> Bruce MVPA 23824
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/mvhelp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Boos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>> What happened to the Assistance list of MVers that was put up on the
>>>>
>>
>> web.
>>
>>>>> I have long lost the link to this wonderful undertaking.
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <bolton8@juno.com>
>>>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: [MV] ASSISTANCE REQUESTED
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mil-Veh Members:
>>>>>> Anyone in the west Nebraska or west Iowa area?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arizona Mil-Veh member is stopped in Ogallala NE, just west of North
>>>>>> Platt, trying to get to Lincoln NE. Final destinatin is
>>>>>> Minneapolis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's towing an M116 trailer with a 900X16 tire that is about to
>>>>>> blow.
>>>>>> The first tire blew apart going to Texas and was replaced by his
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> spare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anyone in the area that can sell a 900X16 rubber (with or
>>>>>> without the rim) or give him leads on local dealer's that do.
>>>>>
>>
>> Doesn't
>>
>>>>>> have to be military NDT, he'll take whatever fits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact me on or off-list with your name and phone number and I will
>>>>>> forward the info to him so he can get in contact with you. This
>>>>>> guy
>>>>>
>>
>> is
>>
>>>>>> in a real bind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> LANCE MVPA 22125
>>>>>>
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-- Bruce Kalin East Coast Convoy Coordinator USMCMTA, MVPA, MTANJ, NCMVPA
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