From: Jeff (jcerniglia@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun Aug 07 2005 - 11:16:20 PDT
Guys can we put this thread to bed, Kent said he was
sorry for sounding off, lets let it go and move on.
regards,
Jeff
--- m35products <m35prod@optonline.net> wrote:
> Your ideas are great, but unfortunately, a bit
> naive.
>
> To get a "good deal" on tires, you and your friends,
> or even your fellow
> members of MVPA (once you join) will need to
> purchase an amount slightly
> greater than 30 tires. Try 3,000, 30,000, or 300,000
> tires. That amount will
> get the attention of the manufacturers. They may
> even allow you to consider
> yourself a dealer, but it's doubtful. Their other
> dealers might get a bit
> upset, and call you names. The dealers who sell
> tires and who advertise in
> the MVPA journal already have figured out how to
> discount their products to
> the max, and still make a living. If it could be
> done, it would have been
> done already. I needed 500 military tires for an
> overseas contract. I paid
> close to retail. I wasn't even allowed to talk to
> the factory for that
> "small" amount of tires. Do you want to buy more
> than 500 tires at a time?
>
> How many tires does your local tire RETAILER sell
> each year? The number is
> probably in the 10,000 to 100,000 range in a
> suburban setting. Find out, and
> then ask him if he needs a partner. Mention that you
> need thirty tires. When
> he stops laughing, spend the money to buy thirty
> tires at his asking price,
> and be content with the knowlege that he stands
> behind his products, will
> honor warranties without question, and that he does
> this after paying for:
>
> delivery,
> storage,
> tools,
> inventory,
> disposal fees,
> licensing,
> industry group memberships,
> travel,
> training,
> advertising,
> mortgage,
> accounting fees,
> phone/fax/internet,
> office machinery,
> paper supplies,
> furniture,
> repairs,
> postage,
> rent,
> taxes,
> security,
> payroll,
> insurance,
> heat/light/AC,
> donations to the ambulance and fire departments,
> and coffee, donuts, and benefits for his employees.
>
> With the above business details in mind, why not set
> yourself up as a major
> tire distributor, then advertise in MVPA and other
> enthusiast magazines, and
> sell at a deep discount to other MVPA members? Then
> you will have
> accomplished your goals. It should be easy, as I'm
> sure you have thought all
> this out. These expenses listed above are some
> things to consider when
> formulating your business model. (You'll need to
> justify all of these to
> your investors, by the way. It takes a huge chunk of
> money to start a
> company up, and to keep it going. You're looking at
> a 10- to 20-year payback
> on investment.)
>
> How many MVPA members are there? How many buy NEW
> tires each year for their
> HMV's? How many of these fellows have the disposable
> income for tires, even
> at wholesale prices, rather than at surplus prices?
> How many miles does each
> HMV get driven each year? You're not talking the
> DoD, Verizon, Roadway,
> FedEx, or the US Postal Service, here. I put 200
> miles on one M35 last year.
> The 20-year old tires are a bit funky looking, but
> they hold air. That is my
> criterion for replacement. When my Fire Department
> needed 10 tires for its
> M35, we bought them from Saturn Surplus, and got a
> great deal. They were
> matched, 90% tread, less than ten years old, came
> mounted on rims, and cost
> around $100 each, including delivery. Will you be
> able to beat that price?
> If so, put me down for ten tires.
>
> To get a good deal on other products and services,
> the same rules apply. Ask
> yourself what benefit any manufacturer would receive
> by selling a
> ten-thousandth of a percent of his inventory to you
> and your buddies at a
> discount. You have suggested a scheme to get tires
> cheaply. That is
> commendable, but the expression that comes to mind
> is "Been there, tried
> that, got rebuffed." This hobby, even more so than
> your average vintage-car
> club collecting, is not a poor man's hobby. And
> being in business in this
> hobby is being in a hobby business. Most of us have
> our day jobs, too.
>
> Step up to the plate, join the MVPA, and write the
> check for the tires. As
> Woody Allen said: "The high point of my childhood
> was going out with my
> family and buying something retail."
>
> ***This email has been inspected, and is certified
> free of any
> name-calling.***
>
> Arthur P. Bloom, Pres.
> www.M35products.com
>
> Discount on all products for MVPA members.
>
> MVPA member #20238
> Small business owner.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <santoken@bright.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] ASSISTANCE REQUESTED & The MVPA
>
>
> > On another note, would anyone be interested in
> teaming up and perhaps
> trying to get some better deals on stuff that we all
> need? I for one need
> 10 tires, my close buddy here needs 20 tires.
> That's 30 tires. Anyone else
> need tires?
> >
>
>
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