Re: Diesel & cooking oil

From: Kirk Thompson (mosen_temp@mosen.net)
Date: Sun Oct 02 2005 - 21:43:35 PDT


Whoops! Forgot the URL:
<http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html>

This is a good site. Has all kinds of good information on bio-diesel, etc.

-K

At 10:39 AM 10/2/2005, Darrell Ramsell wrote:
>Hi Dick
>
>You reminded me of a question I wanted to ask earlier on this topic.
>
>I'm not a chemist, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what is the
>function of Lye and methanol when added to oil?
>
>Thanks
>
>Darrell
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" <rertman@ix.netcom.com>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil
>
>
>>Kent:
>>
>>"Just cooking oil" is simply the oil used for cooking...usually in a deep
>>fryer...from restaurants.
>>It's simply filtered thru a filter that allows nothing larger than 2 microns
>>to pass thru, then added
>>to the fuel tank such that the ratio is 80% petrodiesel and 20% cooking oil.
>>This oil is usually
>>referred to as waste vegetable oil (WVO).
>>
>>Biodiesel starts with WVO, then is processed using lye and methanol (an
>>alcohol) and is then
>>either added to the vehicle fuel tank along with the petrodiesel, or used
>>100% instead of petrodiesel.
>>
>>A note of caution. Running 100% biodiesel, or even a high percentage of
>>biodiesel almost always
>>requires modification of the vehicle's fuel delivery system because the
>>biodiesel isn't compatible
>>with rubber (synthetic or natural) hoses and seals designed for use with
>>petrodiesel.
>>
>>For what it's worth, I mix 20% filtered WVO and 80% petrodiesel in my fuel
>>tank.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Dick
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <
santoken@bright.net>
>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Sent: 02 October, 2005 06:28
>>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil
>>
>>
>>I've been paying attention to this topic for some time, I have a question,
>>what is the difference betwwn biodiesel and just cooking oil?
>>
>>Kent
>>
>>
>>>
>>>From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>>>Date: Sun Oct 2, 6:35 AM
>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil
>>>
>>>
>>>Hoses and seals and even copper may be effected by biodiesel, no problem
>>>with clean cooking oil.
>>>
>>>When you increase the percentage of oil you increase the chances of
>>>injector coking. Maybe it should be called coking oil. :-)
>>>
>>>If you want to run on 100% oil, heat the tank and
>>>start and shut down on diesel. That way the risk for coking is
>>>minimized. It does require two fuel tanks.
>>>My current project involves just that, I have installed a coolant
>>>heating coil in the main tank and will add a second diesel tank
>>>(about 10 gallons) for starting/warming up and shutting down to
>>>purge the system of oil.
>>>I have been running my deuce on biodiesel and some cooking oil and
>>>diesel since April. Currently 100% biodiesel.
>>>
>>>Bjorn
>>>MVPA19212
>>>Meadows of Dan,Virginia
>>>
>>>1968 M49A2C (modified), 1972 HIAB crane, M756 pipeline truck bed...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Dick" <rertman@ix.netcom.com>
>>> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> >Subject: Re: [MV] Deisle & cooking oil
>>> >Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 17:48:05 -0700
>>> >
>>> >Thanks for the info, Darrell. I'm using 20% used frying oil in my
>>> >Dodge/Cummins pickup truck.
>>> >Someone on the list said not to use more than 20% vegetable oil because
>>> >some
>>> >hoses and seals
>>> >might be damaged.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks again,
>>> >
>>> >Dick
>>
>>
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