From: Glenn McCalley (glenn@combatcatering.com)
Date: Thu Oct 20 2005 - 09:32:25 PDT
Yep, 113's can swim. They'll float but not by much though, as I recall
freeboard was about 8 - 10 inches and a good swell could be trouble. The
tracks would thrash you through the water at a crawl. Any decent current
was trouble.
You also really did have to remember to reinstall the big access plate in
the bottom of the thing after you did an oil change. Lots of water real
fast - forded a stream about 3 feet deep and gave the guys inside quite a
scare when the water came blasting up through the floor. Wasn't real
popular for the rest of the day. Got to clean up the inside all by myself
too.
Glenn.
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From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB" <nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] DUKW turns out to be an APC, Trinity County, CA
> I didnt realise the M113 were amphibs?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Jason Green
> Sent: 20 October 2005 17:43
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> Subject: Re: [MV] DUKW turns out to be an APC, Trinity County, CA
>
>
> If someone gets it for 10k that would be a hell of a deal.
>
> Jason
>
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Behalf
> Of Craig Clifton
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:45 AM
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> Subject: [MV] DUKW turns out to be an APC, Trinity County, CA
>
> Well the DUKW I heard about has tracks and turns out to be an APC. Infor
> from Bruce Beattie
>
> Seems to be in pretty good shape, can't tell exactly what it is but looks
> like a M113, woodland camo, has been well maintained. The Sheriff's
> Department has it.....see below for details.....
>
> By SALLY MORRIS
> It runs good, can crash through trees, lumber over cars - even float on
> water - and Trinity County supervisors are hoping someone will name a
price
> for the county's only armored personnel carrier, or they will sell it for
> scrap.
> The military surplus, full-track, armored vehicle was a gift to Trinity
> County 15 years ago from the U.S. Marshal's office in response to an
> incident that occurred in Lassen County where a sheriff's deputy was shot
by
> a constitutionalist militia group in an open field and later died. Others
at
> the scene could not retrieve the fallen deputy before he died because they
> were also being shot at. They figured if they'd only had an armored
vehicle,
> the man might have been saved.
> As a result, the U.S. Marshal's office gave away military personnel
carriers
> to a few counties including Trinity, but it has never been used here. The
> Board of Supervisors last week agreed to declare the vehicle surplus and
> authorize its sale.
> Undersheriff David Laffranchini said the sheriff's department feels it is
> acceptable to surplus and sell the vehicle, but warned the supervisors "we
> can't find anyone in government with any record of the transfer of the
> vehicle. There was no paperwork attached with it, so there's no guarantee
> there won't be a claim on it if you sell it."
> Board Chairman Howard Freeman wondered if research aimed at clearing the
> title would be "throwing good money after bad, and who buys these things
> anyway? Militias? What keeps a piece of machinery like this from falling
> into the wrong hands?"
> Laffranchini said he doesn't know and it was a good question, adding
"there
> are some background issues." He said he would attempt to contact other
> counties that may have also received vehicles like Trinity's to ascertain
> whether any others came with documentation. He noted the vehicle does have
a
> vehicle identification number.
> "It must be heavy - if no one wants to buy it, we should sell it for
scrap,"
> said Supervisor Roger Jaegel.
> Supervisor Wendy Reiss said there are military vehicle collectors "who
might
> surprise you and offer more than we'd ever expect." She added that she
> appreciates the concerns about not having clear title to the vehicle and
she
> would like the undersheriff to find out "if there are others out there. I
> would not like to see us run over by this."
> Jaegel said he would be OK with that as long as the investigation takes no
> more than an hour of the undersheriff's time, and he included that
direction
> in the motion he made to declare the vehicle surplus and offer it for
sale.
> The motion carried by unanimous vote.
> The estimated value is $10,000. Laffranchini said the vehicle had a new
> engine when it came here and has been maintained by the county
> transportation department. Top speed is about 30 miles per hour, and the
> operator's manual says it will travel six miles an hour on water, "but
I've
> never tried that," Laffranchini said.
>
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