From: V SCHWARTZ (vsaws@optonline.net)
Date: Thu Dec 29 2005 - 16:40:58 PST
Well,I for one think that your RV toter is a beautiful piece of equipment. I
don't care if you buy,sell or whatever. I have yet to meet anyone in this
hobby that is making big bucks. Ronzo should lighten up. Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Onion, or parfait?
> Thats a good one TJ, More notes for my folder.
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> Sonny
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> From: <timothy.smith1@att.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:20 PM
> Subject: [MV] Onion, or parfait?
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>> When does a hobby stop being a hobby and start being commerce? What
>> makes commerce, commerce?
>>
>> Bubba loves military vehicles. He owns an M35. He loves militaria. He
>> loves surplus. He's got minatures of military vehicles on every
>> horizontal surface in his house (that he won't let his grandkids touch),
>> he's got model airplanes hanging from the ceilings and military
>> recruiting posters on the walls. His toilet seat has a fuzzy cammo cover
>> on it. He's even got jammies with little army trucks on them. It's his
>> hobby.
>>
>> Bubba spends a lot of money on his hobby. Then one day, Bubba discovered
>> GL was selling a lot-purchase of items that included a rare left-handed
>> frim-fram device that he needed for his M35. Bubba realized that if he
>> could buy the whole Magilla and sell off the crap he could probably get
>> the left-handed frim-fram device for nothing. In short, if he did the
>> deal, he would realize a "profit" of one left-handed frim-fram device.
>>
>> Bubba drives his M35 to GL and picks up his purchases. Is he in
>> commerce?
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>> No. Bubba's purchase was primarily in pursuit of his hobby. His only
>> INTENT when he made the purchase was to get the left-handed frim-fram
>> device. He would not have bought the lot-purchase if it had not
>> contained the one item he wanted, therefore profit was not a primary
>> goal. Any profit he might realize when he sells off the unwanted items
>> is only incidental.
>>
>> But while he's there, Bubba realizes there's a WHOLE PALLET of rare
>> left-handed frim-fram devices. Bubba realizes it's the mother lode and
>> later manages to buy them with the intent of putting an ad in MV Magazine
>> in order to sell them. He drives his M35 to GL and picks up his
>> purchase. He hasn't sold a single left-handed frim-fram device yet. Is
>> he in commerce?
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>> Yes. Bubba's purchase can be described as a fixed and persistant INTENT
>> to realize a profit, even if it's a one-time deal and even if he hasn't
>> made any profit yet.
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>> In short, if the behavior is conducted primarily for any person to
>> realize a profit; it's a commercial enterprise.
>>
>> An onion has layers. Parfait has layers. But an onion isn't parfait.
>> TJ
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