From: G Shaw (milspectruck@verizon.net)
Date: Wed Jan 11 2006 - 06:57:11 PST
Hey guys, just a step back from the issue for a second;
Beware that this is fraud both with your registration and your insurance and
has MANY pitfalls. You must have a verifiable garaged address for the
insurance companies as well as the taxes. PO Boxes are unacceptable except
as a business mailing address. I would be wary of committing all kinds of
felonies and misdemeanors in a vain effort to get around the primary issue.
This will do everyone a lot more harm than good. Does the state of Kansas
have right to not certify a certain type of vehicle for everyday road use??
This has already been decided many times in the courts. It is a priviledge,
not a right to use a vehicle on the road as the state may see fit. And the
state will execute their power and defend it in the courts.
If you look at the argument raised by the Ferret owner pretty much every
clause is quite weak in its legal standing. Although we may not like the
outcome, Kansas has many different solid arguments that they may use in
court (and will) to support their refusal to issue the priviledge of driving
this armored military vehicle on the public way. Safety issues specific to
the vehicles odd seating, non standard steering controls, limited visibility
and the safety of other travelers near it on the highway , along with the
ever present public policy issues to do with Private Armor in this day and
age of Terrorist threats. Does anyone else see the day coming when Private
Armor will reside only in collections or be trucked out to a parade or show
on a flatbed? I see it as a real possibility the way things are going. You
will find that support for the owners of this Armor being able to be owned
at all or driven on the highway, with the general public, is about as great
as for anyone being able to walk around with a sub machine gun at the mall.
We have to face up to what the reality of this is today. People are afraid
out there.
Does the MVPA "want" to make a stand on this issue here and now? I don't
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
Does anyone have any experience in doing this? Particulary between
Dave
laptops wrote:
know. It may have as much downside as up to make a big stink of this in the
Public Forum. If the case is lost it will become a far more widespread
policy in many more states. Maybe discretion would be the better part of
valor on this at this time. Perhaps this guy can just move on to another
type of MV and have some fun instead of giving himself a lot of trouble all
the way around. It is certain that the legal costs where this is heading
are going to be FAR more than the Ferret cost in the first place. I was not
going to post anything on this, but I think that everyone should take a look
at the long view of the big picture without emotion before flying off on
this. It will end up being argued by legal pros far better than I soon
enough if it keeps moving up the docket as they say. We shall see.
MTA
MVPA
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Indiana and Michigan or Ohio or Illinois?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Maguire" <dmaguire@mchsi.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:14 PM
> Subject: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
>
> Here is what I would do.Go to Illinois and get a pobx and get Illonois
> Plates and tell Kanas where to stick it
> Gordon
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