From: Fred H. Schlesinger (fred@schlesingers.net)
Date: Mon Feb 13 2006 - 14:29:14 PST
I don't think that the MVPA should be corresponding with anyone on an email
Listen guys. If you belong to a local Military Vehicle organization, MVPA
If you don't belong to a club, then you are freeloading off of us who put
For our part, The Military Transport Association Inc. has this topic on its
What will they do when they come for you? Choose now.
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1- I note with interest in the last little while the
I think its time the MVPA- to get onto this list and
2- TJ's last posting has some good points and in that
These are the IMPORTANT contacts we will need to tap
Monty
--- timothy.smith1@att.net wrote:
> Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come
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list. They are involved in the Kansas thing and will become involved in
France as well, I imagine.
affiliate or not, you should be organizing yourselves to prepare for an
attack on our hobby from within your state. And metropolitan areas should
join together, so that, for example, the New Jersey, New York Eastern Pa
clubs should cooperate together to cultivate the political contacts, and to
present the hobby in a favorable light. Timothy's post is an example of
thinking on the subject that I think is solid and to the point. If your
club is an MVPA affiliate, or if you are an MVPA member then call Lee
Holland and get on the governmental relations committee, get involved on a
national level.
our money and time toward an organization that supports our hobby.
agenda for tonight's meeting, with the idea that we will appoint a committee
to get ready for the assault before the tomahawks go off. The time is now.
Stop ranting and bellyaching and get together with like minded people and
organize.
From: Convoy Magazine [mailto:convoymagazine@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:12 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] HMV angst
list has been taken up not with hobby "tips, but
rather with serious attacks on our hobby. I sadly
suspect that such restrictions and bans will only
continue and this list will continue its importance as
a discussin area for such very important issues..
keep its members-and non-member hobbyists- up to speed
on what they are doing in reaction to members concerns
about their/our hobby, both within the US and
internationally.
vein, I think that from now on..it would also be
extremely beneficial for "future" needs that hobbyists
take note of any politician, citizen of importance (eg
media figure, sports figure) or veteran who enjoys the
presence of an HMV at a rally, ceremony, or or or..
into when further restrictions are imposed!
> for you?
>
> For Americans, the best way to ensure such a
> buckshot attack on private ownership does not
> succeed (and there have been and will be future
> attacks on our hobby) is to cultivate public support
> for the private ownership of HMV's.
>
> In order to accomplish this we need to get our
> vehicles to public events and display them in a
> historical context. It is not enough that we ensure
> we tack the word "historic" onto the phrase
> "military vehicle." These two thoughts need to be
> inextricably linked by deeds.
>
> For example:
>
> HMV owner #1 drives his HMV in the local parade
> completely kitted out with all the gear, guns, etc.
>
> HMV owner #2 drives his HMV to the town's Veteran's
> Day celebration (provided there IS one) and sets up
> a small, well balanced historical display around it.
> By well balanced, I mean that there is at least as
> much attention given to displaying the more mundane
> items as there is to weapons. Remember, the popular
> view is that weapons are "bad."
>
> Now, there's nothing wrong with what either HMV
> owner did, but which is better? Well, in my humble
> opinion, HMV owner #2 has done a better job. Why?
> Because his vehicle is being shown in a historical
> context. And at the end of the day, FEWER people
> will be going home saying, there's some guy in
> (insert your town here) who owns a really dangerous
> military vehicle and he has lots of guns on it!
>
> This is not to say that we should hide our HMV's
> from view if we aren't in a position to display them
> in a historical context but we need to help the
> casual observer of our HMV's make that connection to
> the preservation and appreciation of history. Some
> suggestions for this would be; make sure your HMV or
> HMV display always prominantly (and properly)
> displays your nation's flag or colors. Surround
> your vehicle with the music of the era (guaranteed
> to sooth the savages). Try not to engage in
> political commentary; i.e. first and foremost, be an
> HMV collector/restorer (hobbyists get more sympathy
> than hobbyists with political agendas). And one
> other suggestion...
>
> This last suggestion is gonna generate a lot of
> discussion but I'm going to throw it out there for
> discussion..
>
> The wearing of military uniforms when in and around
> our HMV's has its place especially in living history
> displays and reenactments. So let's just whittle
> this down to parades and local displays. From the
> standpoint of smoothing easily ruffled feathers and
> gaining popular support for the private ownership of
> HMV's we cannot afford to go around looking like
> some kind of MILITIA. (On the topic as being
> perceived as some kind of kooky militia types,
> imagine how I felt when, for the third year in a
> row, our parade officials announced our group as
> "Alamo Military" when in fact we were to have been
> announced as "Alamo Military Vehicle Preservation
> Association." By the way, I have told the parade
> organizers we would NOT be returning to the local
> parade if this was not resolved!) So, it might be
> more appropriate to invest in a mannequin for that
> military uniform (a small expense compared to our
> HMV's!) and attend your local display, neatly
> dressed in some of our fine MVPA clothing (which you
> will look better in if you are in shape (read that,
> ROUND....hey, round is a shape!), like me!.
>
> This is all I have for now...food for thought.
>
> TJ
>
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