From: djslager@mail.icongrp.com
Date: Mon Feb 13 2006 - 16:03:38 PST
Thanks Fred, WELL PUT..........Join the MVPA now , your local club now, so
we all fight this thing together......................... Doug Slager
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred H. Schlesinger" <fred@schlesingers.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] HMV angst
>
> I don't think that the MVPA should be corresponding with anyone on an
email
> list. They are involved in the Kansas thing and will become involved in
> France as well, I imagine.
>
> Listen guys. If you belong to a local Military Vehicle organization, MVPA
> affiliate or not, you should be organizing yourselves to prepare for an
> attack on our hobby from within your state. And metropolitan areas should
> join together, so that, for example, the New Jersey, New York Eastern Pa
> clubs should cooperate together to cultivate the political contacts, and
to
> present the hobby in a favorable light. Timothy's post is an example of
> thinking on the subject that I think is solid and to the point. If your
> club is an MVPA affiliate, or if you are an MVPA member then call Lee
> Holland and get on the governmental relations committee, get involved on a
> national level.
>
> If you don't belong to a club, then you are freeloading off of us who put
> our money and time toward an organization that supports our hobby.
>
> For our part, The Military Transport Association Inc. has this topic on
its
> agenda for tonight's meeting, with the idea that we will appoint a
committee
> to get ready for the assault before the tomahawks go off. The time is
now.
> Stop ranting and bellyaching and get together with like minded people and
> organize.
>
> What will they do when they come for you? Choose now.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Convoy Magazine [mailto:convoymagazine@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:12 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: [MV] HMV angst
>
> 1- I note with interest in the last little while the
> list has been taken up not with hobby "tips, but
> rather with serious attacks on our hobby. I sadly
> suspect that such restrictions and bans will only
> continue and this list will continue its importance as
> a discussin area for such very important issues..
>
> I think its time the MVPA- to get onto this list and
> keep its members-and non-member hobbyists- up to speed
> on what they are doing in reaction to members concerns
> about their/our hobby, both within the US and
> internationally.
>
> 2- TJ's last posting has some good points and in that
> vein, I think that from now on..it would also be
> extremely beneficial for "future" needs that hobbyists
> take note of any politician, citizen of importance (eg
> media figure, sports figure) or veteran who enjoys the
> presence of an HMV at a rally, ceremony, or or or..
>
> These are the IMPORTANT contacts we will need to tap
> into when further restrictions are imposed!
>
> Monty
>
>
>
> --- timothy.smith1@att.net wrote:
>
> > Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come
> > for you?
> >
> > For Americans, the best way to ensure such a
> > buckshot attack on private ownership does not
> > succeed (and there have been and will be future
> > attacks on our hobby) is to cultivate public support
> > for the private ownership of HMV's.
> >
> > In order to accomplish this we need to get our
> > vehicles to public events and display them in a
> > historical context. It is not enough that we ensure
> > we tack the word "historic" onto the phrase
> > "military vehicle." These two thoughts need to be
> > inextricably linked by deeds.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > HMV owner #1 drives his HMV in the local parade
> > completely kitted out with all the gear, guns, etc.
> >
> > HMV owner #2 drives his HMV to the town's Veteran's
> > Day celebration (provided there IS one) and sets up
> > a small, well balanced historical display around it.
> > By well balanced, I mean that there is at least as
> > much attention given to displaying the more mundane
> > items as there is to weapons. Remember, the popular
> > view is that weapons are "bad."
> >
> > Now, there's nothing wrong with what either HMV
> > owner did, but which is better? Well, in my humble
> > opinion, HMV owner #2 has done a better job. Why?
> > Because his vehicle is being shown in a historical
> > context. And at the end of the day, FEWER people
> > will be going home saying, there's some guy in
> > (insert your town here) who owns a really dangerous
> > military vehicle and he has lots of guns on it!
> >
> > This is not to say that we should hide our HMV's
> > from view if we aren't in a position to display them
> > in a historical context but we need to help the
> > casual observer of our HMV's make that connection to
> > the preservation and appreciation of history. Some
> > suggestions for this would be; make sure your HMV or
> > HMV display always prominantly (and properly)
> > displays your nation's flag or colors. Surround
> > your vehicle with the music of the era (guaranteed
> > to sooth the savages). Try not to engage in
> > political commentary; i.e. first and foremost, be an
> > HMV collector/restorer (hobbyists get more sympathy
> > than hobbyists with political agendas). And one
> > other suggestion...
> >
> > This last suggestion is gonna generate a lot of
> > discussion but I'm going to throw it out there for
> > discussion..
> >
> > The wearing of military uniforms when in and around
> > our HMV's has its place especially in living history
> > displays and reenactments. So let's just whittle
> > this down to parades and local displays. From the
> > standpoint of smoothing easily ruffled feathers and
> > gaining popular support for the private ownership of
> > HMV's we cannot afford to go around looking like
> > some kind of MILITIA. (On the topic as being
> > perceived as some kind of kooky militia types,
> > imagine how I felt when, for the third year in a
> > row, our parade officials announced our group as
> > "Alamo Military" when in fact we were to have been
> > announced as "Alamo Military Vehicle Preservation
> > Association." By the way, I have told the parade
> > organizers we would NOT be returning to the local
> > parade if this was not resolved!) So, it might be
> > more appropriate to invest in a mannequin for that
> > military uniform (a small expense compared to our
> > HMV's!) and attend your local display, neatly
> > dressed in some of our fine MVPA clothing (which you
> > will look better in if you are in shape (read that,
> > ROUND....hey, round is a shape!), like me!.
> >
> > This is all I have for now...food for thought.
> >
> > TJ
> >
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