From: Jay Travis (dagobert@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun Feb 26 2006 - 18:19:12 PST
In the spirit of keeping on topic; I wonder what they use to shield the
vehicle from it's own effects?
> From: Glen Closson <glen_closson@earthlink.net>
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Date: 2/26/2006 8:07:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
>
> Personally, I have no problem with the IED detonating prematurely. People
> that are involved with them in any way are far from innocent. The biggest
> issue I see is that it would fry all semiconductor-based electronics in
> front of the lead vehicle, this includes "friendly's". Not to mention the
> long-term health effects.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>
> "Chance favors the prepared mind." ~ Louis Pasteur
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf
> Of jatonka
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:48 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
>
> I remember hearing about this over a year ago, technology is totally
> available and affordable. People to do the job are already in country,
> vehicle of choice would be something along the lines of my 4x4 converted
M35
> with a civilian diesel of 200 hp and an auto trans for better get around.
> The ONLY problem is the microwave will set the IED's off where ever they
are
> as the vehicle passes through an area. So the ones that haven't been
placed
> yet would go off in houses, cars, backyards and mosques. Our Government
> doesn't want to kill a bunch of "innocent" people. JT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Closson" <glen_closson@earthlink.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
>
>
> You could sweep electronically with a phased array and use very high power
> microwaves to trigger or destroy any electronics within range.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Jay Travis <dagobert@ix.netcom.com>
> >Sent: Feb 24, 2006 5:30 PM
> >To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
> >
> >Rather than trying to catch Abdullah planting the mines with flying
> >drones, perhaps what is needed is a wire guided remote-controlled point
> >vehicle that would sweep the radio frequencies used to detonate these
> >devices, along with dragging chains/rollers/etc boom-mounted in front of
> >it to trip any physical land mines where possible. That, or something
> >that could pull a ground penetrating radar and/or a FLIR unit up ahead
> >and detect any anomolies before the manned vehicles got in range.
> >Wouldn't stop RPGs, of course, but the big buried mines might be
> >detectable and neutralizable while limiting human casualties. Now if I
> >could learn how to crap money out of my ass, I could maybe afford to
> >design and build such a remote vehicle and sell/lease the design to
> >DARPA. Of course, by then, we'll be in Iran, and Abdullah's cousin
> >Ahkmed will come up with some novel new idea to play "repel the infidel".
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Cliff S <mtnbikinssgt@hotmail.com>
> >> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >> Date: 2/24/2006 4:05:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
> >>
> >> Sure have Stu,
> >> I have been on in some planning phases also. What you have is lots
> >> of background people. Who is going to watch the monitor, who is
> >> going to
> >make
> >> the call that its really a bad guy, who is going to refuel the
> >> "plane/drone", who is.....the list is longer than you would like to
know.
> >>
> >> But on the upside, we do have lots of other high techno gadgetry out
> >there
> >> sweeping all the time.....ever look at how big Iraq really is? try
> >> to
> >sweep
> >> the state of Texas of trash, that is about how it would be. Imagine
> >> the manpower you would waste keeping up the "trash". I know life has
> >> no
> >cost,
> >> but I have been over here twice in 2 years and I know Im coming back
> >> in a few months again.......so how costly is it?
> >>
> >> The bigger picture is, we have awsome protection of our trucks and
> >> personnel. But when your up against a HUGE mine, it doesnt matter
> >> anymore.......its guerilla warfare.
> >>
> >> I can talk with you offline if you want about this subject. But you
> >> get
> >the
> >> gist of it here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> SSGT SMITH, USMC Iraq
> >>
> >> M880, M274A5, 6K GenSet
> >> http://tired-iron.mounet.com/cliff/
> >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/mtnbikinssgt/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Stu" <stuinnh@mvnut.us>
> >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >> Subject: [MV] Armed Drones in Iraq
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:00:12 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone given any thought to why the military doesn't have armed
> >> drones passing over the hwy's every few minutes 24/7 to catch the
> >> people planting the IED's in Iraq? It must take more then 5 minutes
> >> to bury them or hide them. I think they will think twice on trying
> >> to plant them if they end
> >up
> >> dead each time. Any thoughts??
> >>
> >>
> >> "Stu"
> >> Southern NH, USA
> >> "Live Free Or Die"
> >>
> >> MVPA #14790
> >> 1967 M151A1 Jeep 1964 M416 Trailer
> >> 1985 M1008 CUCV Pickup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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