Re: M1009 CUCV problem

From: MV (MV@dc9.tzo.com)
Date: Mon Mar 20 2006 - 17:17:46 PST

Exactly, and for us amateur welders out who have caught ourselves on
fire more than once, you know that with only 150-250 amps of current you
can heat up a lot of metal fast and make a dandy fire in no time at all.
  (;->) Hence a fuse of that size would be of limited use. It would
probably only blow if you had a dead short (unlikely) and your battery
was in really good shape.

Dave

Glen Closson wrote:
> You could fuse the lin, but it would be difficult. Starters draw 300-400 amps under load.
>
> Glen
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>>From: MV <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
>>Sent: Mar 20, 2006 11:36 AM
>>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Subject: Re: [MV] M1009 CUCV problem
>>
>>This would seem like a logical solution - and if it were possible, I
>>would think that it would be done by the manufacturers. I don't believe
>>that you can fuse that link effectively. Spinning a stubborn motor with
>>a 12 volt or 24 volt motor is very close to a short circuit. Too close
>>in fact. I doubt that a fuse could differentiate between a faltering
>>starter and a stubborn starting engine. Hence if you setup a fuse to
>>blow when the starter falters - it is likely that you would have
>>nuisance fuses being blown each time you had to crank it over a little
>>more than usual.
>>
>>I'm sure a more elaborate protection scheme could be designed, but it
>>could get expensive, and car makers are not into putting in any cost
>>that doesn't have a direct impact on increased car sales or safety.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>Sean Nichols wrote:
>>
>>>OK, so here's a question related to this failure:
>>>
>>>Given the possibility of this happening, would it be wise or at least
>>>make sense to put some sort of fusable link inline between the starter
>>>and the battery? Seems like it would be cheap insurance if something
>>>like that happened.
>>>
>>>Armchair CUCV electrical engineers what say you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 3/18/06, Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've got starters for $150.00
>>>>
>>>>Sonny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:02 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [MV] M1009 CUCV problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sounds like a starter solenoid failure to me - probably welded in.
>>>>>Nothing is fused. Starter pulls in and can't rotate for some reason -
>>>>>basically a short circuit - huge power draws - everything gets hot and
>>>>>oftentimes catches on fire.
>>>>>
>>>>>Solution - buy a bunch of new parts and install. (:-<)
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark B. Anderson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>went to start my M1009 this morning.
>>>>>>ok manual glowed plugs truck turned over but never started tried again
>>>>>>and then there was smoke. lifted hood both batteries were melting and
>>>>>>the wires were on fire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ok what happened anyone else ever had this happen? to me seems like
>>>>>>something stuck with shorting the 24 volt?
>>>>>>any ideas on what to look for or replace first??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any help here would be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark Anderson
>>>>>>Anderson & Anderson Airsoft
>>>>>>Anderson & Anderson Surplus
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>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Glen
>

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