From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Wed Apr 26 2006 - 17:44:02 PDT
Leave my hero alone, will ya?
Sonny
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From: "MV" <MV@dc9.tzo.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Gas Prices/Alcohol as a solution
>
> The idea of using ethanol as a substitute for oil should be looked at
> carefully. I have heard many times that the amount of energy necessary to
> produce alcohol exceeded the energy value obtained from the same amount of
> alcohol. I do a lot of work with a major distillery and they go through a
> tremendous amount of coal to produce ethanol for beverages. And that is
> after the corn and grain has been planted, fertilized, harvested, and then
> transported to the distillery - all of which consume plain diesel fuel
> (tractor and truck fuel) and natural gas (fertilizer). They really don't
> care though (to some extent) since coal is fairly cheap and they get big
> bucks for a gallon of beverage alcohol. The quality standards are a lot
> higher than vehicle alcohol.
>
> Take a look at this:
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050329132436.htm
>
> Several different people have come to similar conclusions. Do a web
> search - this is nothing new.
>
> Indiana is pushing biofuels really hard right now. I have heard that the
> break-even price for making ethanol from corn is $2.90/gallon with
> government subsidies. Gee, what is gas going for now?? But Indiana also
> grows a lot of corn and soybeans - so you should not be surprised that
> governor Mitch (got a highway to sell) Daniels is pushing that.
>
> We have a huge amount of coal in this country - 250 years worth the last I
> heard. I think it is time we start using some of those resources to
> produce petro products.
>
> Of course if we start doing that I'm sure that George got-gas? Bush, and
> Dick - I got a gun - Cheney will put Exxon on the job so they can make
> sure that we pay the proper price. Perhaps Haliburton can help also?
>
> Sooner or later we are going to have to electn some politicians that do
> what is good for the people - not what is good for big oil, corn growers,
> auto companies, Saudi Arabia, Casino operators, etc. Until then - we are
> our own worst enemy.
>
> We are operating under the golden rule now- those that have the gold,
> rule.
>
> Dave
> With a thirsty M-51 gasser with empty tanks. (:-<)
>
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