From: ygmir (ygmir@onemain.com)
Date: Sat May 06 2006 - 21:28:02 PDT
On a somewhat different note:
Wasn't there a real concern about biodiesel, and, VO "coking" the injectors
and cylinders?
Thanks,
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Harris" <papercu@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
Here is a link to the evaporation rate and warning of methanol and methanol
is also used in meth (methamphetamine) labs (so is table salt) so large
amount may bring the guys in white suit and masks to your door. Wayne
http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/m/methanol.htm
http://www.dhfs.state.wi.us/eh/ChemFS/fs/MethClnUp.htm
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> To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
> From: recovry4x4@bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
> Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 00:32:43 -0400
>
> Hmmm! I wonder what the evaporation rate of methanol is? Seems that most
> alcohols evaporate pretty quickly. I wonder if areating (sp) the fuel will
> cause the methanol to evaproate?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
>
>
> > Fuel dryer additives are not methanol, but ethanol, which has a higher
> > boiling temp.
> > Ethanol can also be used instead of methanol in biodiesel production,
> > but
> > costs more.
> > One other solution is to install a thermal blanket around the tank to
> > keep
> > the temperature under control.
> >
> > Bjorn
> >
> >
> >>From: "Glenn Shaw" <milspectruck@verizon.net>
> >>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
> >>Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 09:49:35 -0400
> >>
> >>I would think it is just a matter of quantity. With the water
> >>dispersals
> >>you are adding a couple of 12 oz cans. Bjorn may be talking about
> >>enough
> >>of
> >>a quantity that it all will not remain azeotropically bonded to the
> >>water
> >>and begin to come off as significant amounts of Methanol vapor. That
> >>could
> >>pose a problem near the tank vent if someone lit up a ciggy. I would
> >>just
> >>monitor the sit and see, but I would definitely not have any fuel system
> >>venting near any source of ignition to be safe.
> >>
> >>Glenn
> >>MTA
> >>MVPA
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
> >>Behalf
> >>Of Rick v100
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:14 AM
> >>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
> >>
> >>
> >>Isn't alochol used in most fuel dryers? So what is the difference
> >>between
> >>having the methanol left in and adding fuel dryer?
> >>
> >>--- Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I do have one concern about using unwashed biodiesel
> >> > and that is the fact
> >> > that methanol starts to boil at 148 deg F.
> >> > This could be a factor in a hot climate with the sun
> >> > beaming down on the
> >> > fuel tank.
> >> > I have received a couple of numbers from Kenny in
> >> > Florida and Ken in TX on
> >> > the fuel temp, but those were not maximum or worst
> >> > case conditions.
> >> >
> >> > It could be a fire hazard.
> >> >
> >> > If any of you would care to add to this, I would be
> >> > most appreciative.
> >> > Just measure the fuel temp with the engine running
> >> > (return fuel is hot) and
> >> > report the highest temperature with the sun hitting
> >> > the tank. I suspect 150
> >> > F would not be out of question.
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >> >
> >> > Bjorn
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