From: beng79 (30363johansson@telia.com)
Date: Tue Jun 20 2006 - 22:22:07 PDT
"Sonderkraftfahrzeug" = Special vehicle. In itself it is meaningless as a
definition of a vehicle, since all German military vehicles had an
Sd.Kfz.-designation. It must be followed by the number for that specific
type to give meaning.
I think the three-quarter-track in question should be Sd.Kfz. 250/something.
There were at least 21 different subversions.
BJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] MV movie question... "Play Dirty"
> What do you mean by Sd.Kfz ? What is that abbreviation stand for?
>
> Sonny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Alamo" <thealamo@igb.cnr.it>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] MV movie question... "Play Dirty"
>
>
> > Jun 20 2006
> >
> > Glenn,
> > The one of The Dirty Dozen was the tractor used to haul the 8.8 cm. A.A.
> > cannon.
> > The OT810 was manufactured postwar by the same Manufacturing plant (the
> > Skoda, the car manufacturer now part of the Volkswagen Group) which made
> > them for the Germans during WWII and was used post-war by the Czech
Army:
> > the main difference between the WWII Sd.Kfz. and the OT810 is in the
> > engine, it is a diesel one while the original was a gasoline one. Also
> > the OT810 does have a completely enclosed armored roof while the German
> > Sd.Kfz. did have an open roof.
> > The OT810 is very sought after by Collectors/reenactors because it is
the
> > only way of having a very close replica of a German WWII halftrack at a
> > reasonable price. In England there are many of them, modified by
cutting
> > the roof. I would love to have one... You may see them at War & Peace.
> > If you have not been there you have to: really is a shocking experience.
> > Usually more then 3000 mil-veh are there in 5 days and collectors do
come
> > a couple of days before the official opening...
> > Regards
> > Raimondo
> > 1943 GPW Jeep
> >
> >
> > At 14.26 20/06/2006, GLENN wrote:
> >>Yes, I remember that half track very well in The Dirty Dozen. Lee
Marvin
> >>and the others running around in that half track produced some great
shots
> >>of it in action. As I recall there is a collector on Cape Cod in Mass
who
> >>has one that he used to bring to parades and re-enactments. I believe
it
> >>is a Czech OT810 however,and not an original Sd.Kfz. Quite a machine.
> >>Glenn
> >>MVPA
> >>MTANJ
> >>
> >>The Alamo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Jun 20 2006
> >>>
> >>>Greg,
> >>>Following my posting of yesterday, as I have promised, I have checked
my
> >>>books (I did not remember that I have two more ones in English!):
> >>>the movie is PLAY DIRTY - 1969, as also suggested by another Lister
> >>>yesterday.
> >>>
> >>>It has been a pleasure to go through my books looking for your movie.
> >>>There were a lot of war movies which I did not remember of... and many
I
> >>>have not seen because have been considered less important or marginal
by
> >>>our TV Stations.
> >>> The only fault of "Play Dirty" are the U.S. half-tracks disguised as
> >>> German Sd.Kfz. half-tracks. However, this is a minor fault because at
> >>> the time all German half-tracks used in war movies were U.S. ones. In
> >>> 1969 there were VERY VERY few mil-veh collectors owning running German
> >>> WWII half-tracks. The only original one used in a movie I remember of
> >>> is an German Sd.Kfz. half-track used at the end of DIRTY DOZEN. It
> >>> seems that it was recovered in a British farm. Anybody does remember
> >>> it?
> >>>Regards and
> >>>Keep Them Rolling!
> >>>
> >>>Raimondo
> >>>1943 GPW Jeep
> >>>
> >>>At 08.33 17/06/2006, GREG wrote:
> >>>> OK, MV movie gurus - need some help out with this one.
> >>>> I'm trying to find the title of this movie (or maybe it was a TV
> >>>> movie?), but the only thing that some friends and I can remember
from
> >>>> it
> >>>> is one scene where trucks are being winched up a cliff. Location
was
> >>>> probably supposed to be North Africa, time more than likely was
> >>>> supposed
> >>>> to be WW2. Movie was in color, if that helps. [...]
> >>>>I'm trying to find the title of this movie (or maybe it was a TV
> >>>>movie?),
> >>>>but the only thing that some friends and I can remember from it is one
> >>>>scene
> >>>>where trucks are being winched up a cliff. Location was probably
> >>>>supposed to
> >>>>be North Africa, time more than likely was supposed to be WW2. Movie
> >>>>was in
> >>>>color, if that helps.
> >>>>
> >>>>Does this ring a bell with anyone?
> >>>>
> >>>>Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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