From: JEFF HAIN-MATSON (flmv@flmv.net)
Date: Sun Nov 21 2004 - 06:16:57 PST
Steve Grammont wrote:
> >One of ebays biggest problems that they try to keep a lid on is
> >collusive bidding with shill bidders running up items. If they
> >don't keep a lid on it, be sure that government will do it for them, and
> >kill ebay in the process.
>
> Shills are a whole nother ball of wax.
But shill bidding is included in the descriptions of collusive bidding!! So
from a legal point of view they are one and the same.
> This is the practice of
> purposefully manipulating the price upwards or to resecure something that
> otherwise would be sold at a low price. There is real harm here because
> the action always inflates the price to the benefit of the seller at the
> expense of the buyer. With collusion bidding, as I've described, this is
> not always the case and is often beneficial to the seller. At least how
> it works with me.
>
> I've had friends offer to bid up items I'm selling on eBay when the
> bidding is sparse... I always refuse. It is not only illegal but, IMHO,
> immoral. I'm the type that doesn't play a game if it can't be played
> fairly. I've been hit by shillers for sure on at least 2 occasions and I
> HATE IT. eBay did nothing about either one, even though the case was as
> clear as day (i.e. snipe bidding at the last minute for 4x the value
> using a eBay profile with 8 wins in 12 months that had nothing to do with
> the item's category).
>
> Steve
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