From: G Shaw (milspectruck@verizon.net)
Date: Wed Jan 11 2006 - 07:10:27 PST
Exactly. And if it loses........................what will the other states
Just a thought.
Glenn
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The MVPA better that a stand NOW. After the 1st one does any other
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> Hey guys, just a step back from the issue for a second;
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say then? Especially places like MA, NJ, NY, CA etc. You have made my
point. Is this the place and TIME to draw the line in the sand with regard
to private parties running aroung on the road with Armor? Right now most of
these states allow a Halftrack as it is.
From: froberts@midsouth.rr.com [mailto:froberts@midsouth.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:06 AM
To: G Shaw
Cc: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
state, or anybody who wants another state to do it will say "Kanas is
already doing it".
From: G Shaw <milspectruck@verizon.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:57 am
Subject: Re: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
>
> Beware that this is fraud both with your registration and your
> insurance and
> has MANY pitfalls. You must have a verifiable garaged address for
the
> insurance companies as well as the taxes. PO Boxes are
> unacceptable except
> as a business mailing address. I would be wary of committing all
> kinds of
> felonies and misdemeanors in a vain effort to get around the
> primary issue.
> This will do everyone a lot more harm than good. Does the state
> of Kansas
> have right to not certify a certain type of vehicle for everyday
> road use??
> This has already been decided many times in the courts. It is a
> priviledge,not a right to use a vehicle on the road as the state
> may see fit. And the
> state will execute their power and defend it in the courts.
>
> If you look at the argument raised by the Ferret owner pretty much
> everyclause is quite weak in its legal standing. Although we may
> not like the
> outcome, Kansas has many different solid arguments that they may
> use in
> court (and will) to support their refusal to issue the priviledge
> of driving
> this armored military vehicle on the public way. Safety issues
> specific to
> the vehicles odd seating, non standard steering controls, limited
> visibilityand the safety of other travelers near it on the highway
> , along with the
> ever present public policy issues to do with Private Armor in this
> day and
> age of Terrorist threats. Does anyone else see the day coming
> when Private
> Armor will reside only in collections or be trucked out to a
> parade or show
> on a flatbed? I see it as a real possibility the way things are
> going. You
> will find that support for the owners of this Armor being able to
> be owned
> at all or driven on the highway, with the general public, is about
> as great
> as for anyone being able to walk around with a sub machine gun at
> the mall.
> We have to face up to what the reality of this is today. People
> are afraid
> out there.
>
> Does the MVPA "want" to make a stand on this issue here and now?
> I don't
> know. It may have as much downside as up to make a big stink of
> this in the
> Public Forum. If the case is lost it will become a far more
widespread
> policy in many more states. Maybe discretion would be the better
> part of
> valor on this at this time. Perhaps this guy can just move on to
> anothertype of MV and have some fun instead of giving himself a
> lot of trouble all
> the way around. It is certain that the legal costs where this is
> headingare going to be FAR more than the Ferret cost in the first
> place. I was not
> going to post anything on this, but I think that everyone should
> take a look
> at the long view of the big picture without emotion before flying
> off on
> this. It will end up being argued by legal pros far better than I
> soonenough if it keeps moving up the docket as they say. We shall
> see.
> Glenn
> MTA
> MVPA
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf
> Of MV
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:01 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience in doing this? Particulary
> between
> Indiana and Michigan or Ohio or Illinois?
>
> Dave
>
> laptops wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Maguire"
> <dmaguire@mchsi.com>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-
> veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:14 PM
> > Subject: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
> >
> > Here is what I would do.Go to Illinois and get a pobx and get
> Illonois> Plates and tell Kanas where to stick it
> > Gordon
> >
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