Re: NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed

From: Glen Closson (glen_closson@earthlink.net)
Date: Fri Mar 10 2006 - 15:46:30 PST


Yes, the LAW proved to ineffective against modern Soviet armor and it was repalced with the AT-4 which is made in Sweden and sell for about $1K/ea.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "mr.bones" <mrbonesblues@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Mar 10, 2006 6:39 PM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed
>
>If I recall correctly from my Seabee days, the LAW rocket fires a 77mm HEAT
>(High Energy Anti Tank) rocket; I am unsure even as a devoted WWII buff if
>this is what a rifle grenade ever was.. although I am relatively sure that
>they were not 'shaped charges'. I do specifically recall both in training at
>the range, and repeatedly prior to leaving for the Persian Gulf, being told
>by the instructors: "Guys, DON'T shoot this weapon at tanks, it will only
>piss them off really bad and give away your position to them."
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jay Travis" <dagobert@ix.netcom.com>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Friday, 10 March, 2006 17:10
>Subject: Re: [MV] NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed
>
>
>> I'm no expert on them myself, so you may well be completely right. I do
>> remember they did have a couple of different versions, including a
>training
>> version, so some of them might have had fixed fins too. It's all academic
>> anyway, as trying to put one back into service with ANY kind of warhead
>> would be an e-ticket ride straight to Club Fed via the BATF boys. They'd
>> probably get annoyed even using it to shoot bottle rockets, if they caught
>> you doing it. Model rockets would be questionable, I guess. Didn't they
>> recently come out stating that they changed their minds about trying to
>> regulate over-the-counter hobby rocket engines? Still have to be careful,
>> though- you'll put an eye out! ;-)
>>
>>
>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: dgrev <dgrev@iinet.net.au>
>> > To: <dagobert@ix.netcom.com>
>> > Cc: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> > Date: 3/11/2006 8:52:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [MV] NOS M65 breech assembly or diagram needed
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>> > > Are you sure of that?
>> >
>> > No, just going on what I have been told.
>> >
>> > > The outside difference would be the folding fins
>> > > that pop out after launch,
>> >
>> > We may be talking about different models of LAWS.
>> >
>> > > but the explosive itself would be some form of a
>> > > shaped charge with a cone cover, to penetrate armor with a plasma
>center
>> > > when it hits. I would think a regular grenage, rifle or otherwise,
>> would
>> > > just make a loud noise and a dent in the side of anything armor.
>> >
>> > Agreed, you will note I did say "modifications internally".
>> >
>> > > (Although
>> > > granted, the LAWS system is supposedly ineffective against modern
>armor
>> and
>> > > wouldn't do much good unless you were being attacked by something like
>a
>> > > T-34) Now, I could well be wrong, and if so, please enlighten me, but
>> > > that's what I thought was the case with them.
>> >
>> > I am going on something I was told over 5 years ago by an ammo
>> > collector - which I am not.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Doug
>>

Regards,

Glen



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