From: timothy.smith1@att.net
Date: Sun May 07 2006 - 19:50:04 PDT
Oooooooh! How I would LOVE to say what I really WANT to say about this kind of crap!...but I won't. I'd like to hear what Gene's side of the story is, too. And who is his supplier!? Perhaps the two of you would publicly agree to abide by the list's response to this after having heard both sides.
Now back to reality... Here's my two bits....
Under the circumstances, you should consider selling these tires locally at the best price you can reasonably get and getting Gene and/or his supplier to reimburse you for the difference or make it up to you by supplying you with other merchandise of similar (retail) value. This would ease some of the financial strain on their end since they get stuff at wholesale value (or lower). Remember, what you paid was retail; they took the profit margin and put it in their pockets. So you might also ask them to reimburse you for whatever their profit was. If this is all you can get under the circumstances...take it.
Don't throw good money after bad by shipping them elsewhere. Not only do you lose control of your collateral, you will no doubt be asked to wait for remittance. But if you DO ship them elsewhere, get payment up front! But I think this is a lousy solution and is asking for more trouble.
Consider this...if you are the only guy locally with new 9x20s then you may have to wait a while to sell them, but SOMEONE will come along who is contemplating having to buy a set of 9-bys and they would have to have them shipped just as you did. They can buy them from you (including the usual shipping costs) but they can have them that very day (or nearly so), without having to wait and without all the hassles....because you have them on hand and they're in-country. Of course you will have to be patient and perhaps go without your 11-bys for a while.
AND -STOP- ordering stuff through third parties!
Oh and by the way.... If you think Gene is a (insert your adjective here) don't be afraid to sound off... Gene never fails to do the same thing when he feels he's been wronged in some way.
Regards,
TJ
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From: <danjahn@qlink.ca>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: danjahn@qlink.ca [mailto:danjahn@qlink.ca]
> Sent: May 7, 2006 5:35 PM
> To: robertmorrison@telus.net
> Subject: Listers. I need your thoughts.
>
>
> Hi Listers.
>
> MV Content: Military tires for my 6X6
>
> I need your thoughts with a situation that has arisen between fellow
> lister Gene Pantano and myself.
>
> I ordered some 1100x20 tires from Gene back in January and allthough I
> asked him a number of times to be sure that he was shipping 1100x20 tires I
> ended up receiving 900x20 tires after paying shipping fees, duties and
> taxes to get them into Canada.
>
> Gene was surprised to hear this and did admit that he hadn't checked the
> tires but instead asked his wife to check them. Upon further investigation
> he learned that his supplier had not only sent him the wrong tires, the
> supplier knew he had sent the wrong ones!
>
> We both agreed at first it wouldn't make sense to ship them back so Gene
> suggested I try to sell them up here and in the meantime he would try to
> find the correct tires which by the way the supplier had sold to someone
> else when he didn't hear back from Gene.
>
> I tried selling the tires within the two clubs up here as well as on this
> list. But as I had paid too much for 900x20 tires ( 900's usually cheaper
> that 1100's )no one was interested in buying.
>
> I tried a number of suggestions to resolve this situation but all have
> been shotdown by Gene.
>
> Gene will only reimberce me what I paid for the tires plus I have to get
> them to a friend of his in California ( 1500 miles away). He refuses to pay
> any any of the shipping costs involved in this mistake ... only what I paid
> for the tires.
>
> My last try at trying to resolve this situation resulted in a email from
> Gene telling me he is tired of my whining and not to email him again. I
> wonder who would be whining if I had sent him a bogus money order!
>
> A number of long time listers will know that Gene has used this list to
> get action when he has been burned by someone, so I thought I would bring
> this situation here to see what you people think.
>
> What I'm asking of this list is how you think the mistake should have been
> resolved. I'm not asking you to judge Gene's character only constructive
> criticism please.
>
> You can email your thoughts to me directly but I would prefer you send
> them to this list in the hopes that Gene might read them and have second
> thoughts.
>
> If nothing else I may raise some interesting discusions about using this
> list to buy and sell stuff.
>
> Thankyou all for taking the time to read this.
>
> Dan
>
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